Something important to know when comparing the .270 vs .308 is that the .308 has seen a lot of military service, while the .270 is primarily a hunting round. recoil and ammo price question .270 vs .308? The average 12 ga Foster slug packs a lot more punch on the shooter's end than almost any .308 load I've shot, to include 190 SMKs. Enjoy this article about the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Winchester debate? The shell casing was designed to ease case extraction and cartridge feeding in bolt action rifles as well as machine guns. i am looking into either getting a .270 or .308. but now i have also included the 30-06. which makes the decision even harder. And its recoil is more manageable than that of the .30-06. Both have been popular from their inceptions. Plain and simple, if you don’t enjoy your rifle, then you won’t shoot it! In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look two cartridges, the 7mm-08 Rem and the .270 Win. hi all, i am looking into buying a new rifle. i will be hunting deer as of now, but may want to start to hunt bear. Please share it with your friends on Facebook and Twitter. Recoil is also important because it determines, for how, how easy your rifle will be to shoot. They recoil about the same. Due to a lighter recoil, the .270 does have an edge when it comes to better and stable target shooting. The 270 only comes in with (3) bullets weights. There's been thousands of articles over the past 90 years or soon comparing the .270 and .30-06 so it's a too belabored topic. The power of the 308 comes with excessive recoil and that is a … There are many bullet offerings for the .308 WIn. I've always had a soft spot for the 270, kills well and doesn't recoil much, but once I sort of looked the chronograph data I've collected on both the 270 and the 7mm-08 over the past few years, something became clear to me: the 7-08 basically equals the 270 in velocity and energy if you are using the typical 22" 270 factory barrel. The 308 has many uses as does the 270 Win. By the numbers, according to the Chuck Hawks recoil table, an 8-lb. Unlike my 308 vs 30-06 article, this one is NOT splitting hairs. For one all rounder the 308 is better in Australia, there is a broader range of ammo available, the short action is a little lighter and quicker to operate, and it kicks a little less if you are taking multiple shots culling or in a comp. It is the best long range performer of the group and on a par with 300 win mag. When it comes to consistent accuracy potential, the short action in 308 has an advantage over the 270's long action as it is stiffer and as such flexes less under stresses of recoil. In 1952, Winchester commercially released the .308 round along with chambering its Model 70 and Model 88 rifles for the cartridge. However the .308 just ain't as sexy as the 270. 270, 8.0lb Rifle, 150gr bullet =17.2 lb felt recoil. A .260 shooting a 140grn bullet with a .520 bc @ 2600 fps witha 200 yard 0 in a 10mph wind. Both are excellent cartridges. The bullets for the .308 tend to be heavier than the ones for .270. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 Winchester vs .30-30 Winchester ammo rounds. 7mm-08 vs. .308 – Recoil. I’ll be primarily writing this article in mind of new hunters looking at rifles chambered in … My 270 weighs more and has a recoil pad Go with a heavier … Austin tx. The 308 comes in with (7) bullet weights, both have the same range of kill (640yd) The 270 is a Long Action, The 308 is a Short Action. On the other hand, the 270 Win started life as a game hunting cartridge and was popularized by Mr. O'Connor. Posts: 248. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o I would suggest reconsidering the need for long-range hunting (above 400 m / 450 yards). Actually I think it was a clunker in those days, but so were most other cartridges of that ilk. I'm trying to establish the recoil difference if both a 308 win and a 7mm Rem Mag are loaded with 150gr bullets to 2950 ft/s. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 270 - which cartridges are an ideal companion when hunting?Finding the answer to this question is no piece of cake. But to make the task of choosing one which suits your hunting best much easier, let’s walk through their most outstanding features. Its all physics. in this non-biased .308 Vs 30-06 review, you will come to know the differences of these 2 popular cartridges regarding size, ballistic, recoil, flexibility Here are some numbers to consider. The 270 is flatter shooting and is a better hunting round. 25-06 vs 6.5 Creedmoor vs 270 Winchester: The Results Might Surprise You. I am relatively new to hunting and I was looking to make my first rifle purchase. Woodsman. idk what else i would hunt. 308 vs 270 recoil on a ruger American #4306468 06/07/13 05:08 AM: Joined: Feb 2013. If I was just game hunting though I would get the 270 … Posts: 248. Let's compare two top quality deer hunting loads. Went to ableammo.com and checked a few different models in .270 vs .308 and there was no difference in listed weight. Granted, recoil energy is highly relative; recoil force depends on grain weight and muzzle velocity as well as the weight of the rifle. FYI: The heaver bullet You shoot the More Felt Recoil to YOU the shooter!! Gun weight is an important, and inversely proportional, component of recoil. There is a great deal of difference between the 300 Winchester Magnum, affectionately known as the “300 Win Mag”, and the 308 Winchester. Austin tx. Joined: Feb 2013. J. Ammo Used. I'm looking for a bolt-action, all-around calibre, for … Both of these cartridges became popular in the shooting world because of their ballistic characteristics, especially the trajectory, and the low recoil while still can bring down medium and even larger sized game. If you are considering moving away from the 270 for recoil reasons, it’s important to realize that a 308 kicks about the same, and that by going to a lighter rifle you will undoubtedly feel more recoil. Hi all - I know I'll get several opinions here, but I'm just researching ballistics and calibers for my next rifle purchase. OP. jesselnick. The former situation minimizes the subjective recoil, while the latter maximizes subjective recoil. It largely depends on the gun they are in. While a gun and the ammunition may be capable of sub-MOA accuracy, real-life hunting is not like shooting on a shooting stand. Put a 308 in a 6 1/2 lb Savage bolt and it will recoil move than a 308 in a 7 1/2 lb Rem 700. The historical popularity of the .308 Winchester cartridge doesn’t mean it is free from problems. Comparing the .270 with the 7mm Remington magnum is like comparing grits and white cornmeal. The 308 comes in Managed recoil ammo. This is of little consequese unless your trying to build a real tack driver of a rifle for some serious prescion work at long range, such as a sniper/tactical rifle. If your hunting doesn't require the larger bullet-size the .308 affords, then the .270WSM will have flatter long-range ballistics. The 150 grain 270 has the BC of 180 grain 308 bullets. Most of your felt recoil lies with in the type of rifle you are shooting vs. bullet weight. Woodsman. Thing is, IMHO, premium .308 rounds (Federal Premium & others) really make the .308 adequate for elk-size game. Nosler provided the data used to compare the recoil of the cartridges (here and here). My 270 with 130gr bullets doesnt seem to kick hard at all, at least no more than the 30-30's I've ever shot. I am going to buy my wife her first rifle tomorrow and can't decide between the 270 win or the 308 … feels like it has milder recoil than a 308 Win. I think this is where we begin to make our biggest distinctions between the rounds. Comparison – .308 vs .270. All recoil values have been rounded off to one decimal place. I had an unmoderated Sauer 90 in .270 as my first centrefire, I can't say that recoil ever bothered me especially whilst stalking, and comparing it to friends 308 on range days didn't throw up any real questions or differences either. 270 vs 308. If both rifles have the same weight etc. Most people attest that .270 vs .30-06 favors the lighter round. Shoot your 12 gauge pump or O/U shotgun from a bench rest some day and you will see what I mean. Recoil from a lighter .308 rifle will be a lot snappier than your slug gun, but not enough to make up for the difference in ft/lbs of recoil. I was all set on a .308 or a .300 WM when I came across the .270 WSM. 30-06 vs .308 vs .270 I'm sure this discussion has been had many times, but I would appreciate your thoughts! Both winchester using powermax bonded bullets, 130 grain for the 270 WSM and 150 for the 308. the 270 WSM starts out at 3000 fps while the 308 … 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Recoil. You can take elk w/ a .270, but precise bullet placement becomes much more critical than in larger rounds. I really like the idea of the Mossberg Patriot in either 270 or 308 but I don’t know which to choose. If it were me I’d keep the 270 and focus on putting an animal or three on the ground with it. You end up with less energy than the magnum, but also less recoil. ... it's just a nice compromise in performance and tends to be very manageable in terms of recoil. Recoil energy for 270 WSM in an 8 pound rifle is 19 lbs, much less load variability. I'd go with a 270 as you'll find 270 ammo easier find as it ain't 223 or 308 that are being horded. .308 Winchester Overview. I am familiar w/ a regular .270 ( I have a Rem 700BDL and a Savage). they should produce the same recoil (according to Newton). J. jesselnick OP. However, it also has a sharper kick, and there isn’t much difference in the recoil by .308. rifle in .270 generates 16.5 ft-lbs of recoil with a 130-grain load at 3,140 fps. If you see a 0 in the Recoil Velocity column it signifies no data available for that particular load. I no longer have a .308 so my memory is not very fresh, mine was a Ruger ultra light with a pencil thin barel and the recoil was rather sharp for a short round, and my brothers Savage M99 .308 kicks! 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